Redefining the bacterial Type I protein secretion system

Type I secretion systems (T1SS) are versatile molecular machines for protein transport across the Gram-negative cell envelope. The archetypal Type I system mediates secretion of the Escherichia coli hemolysin, HlyA. This system has remained the pre-eminent model of T1SS research since its discovery. The classic description of a T1SS is composed of three proteins: an inner membrane ABC transporter, a periplasmic adaptor protein and an outer membrane factor. According to this model, these components assemble to form a continuous channel across the cell envelope, an unfolded substrate molecule is then transported in a one-step mechanism, directly from the cytosol to the extracellular milieu. However, this model does not encapsulate the diversity of T1SS that have been characterized to date. In this review, we provide an updated definition of a T1SS, and propose the subdivision of this system into five subgroups. These subgroups are categorized as T1SSa for RTX proteins, T1SSb for non-RTX Ca²⁺-binding proteins, T1SSc for non-RTX proteins, T1SSd for class II microcins, and T1SSe for lipoprotein secretion. Although often overlooked in the literature, these alternative mechanisms of Type I protein secretion offer many avenues for biotechnological discovery and application.

Structure of the human lipid exporter ABCB4 in a lipid environment

ABCB4 is an ATP-binding cassette transporter that extrudes phosphatidylcholine into the bile canaliculi of the liver. Its dysfunction or inhibition by drugs can cause severe, chronic liver disease or drug-induced liver injury. We determined the cryo-EM structure of nanodisc-reconstituted human ABCB4 trapped in an ATP-bound state at a resolution of 3.2 Å. The nucleotide binding domains form a closed conformation containing two bound ATP molecules, but only one of the ATPase sites contains bound Mg²⁺. The transmembrane domains adopt a collapsed conformation at the level of the lipid bilayer, but we observed a large, hydrophilic and fully occluded cavity at the level of the cytoplasmic membrane boundary, with no ligand bound. This indicates a state following substrate release but prior to ATP hydrolysis. Our results rationalize disease-causing mutations in human ABCB4 and suggest an 'alternating access' mechanism of lipid extrusion, distinct from the 'credit card swipe' model of other lipid transporters.

ABCB4/MDR3 in health and disease – at the crossroads of biochemistry and medicine

Several ABC transporters of the human liver are responsible for the secretion of bile salts, lipids and cholesterol. Their interplay protects the biliary tree from the harsh detergent activity of bile salts. Among these transporters, ABCB4 is essential for the translocation of phosphatidylcholine (PC) lipids from the inner to the outer leaflet of the canalicular membrane of hepatocytes. ABCB4 deficiency can result in altered PC to bile salt ratios, which led to intrahepatic cholestasis of pregnancy, low phospholipid associated cholelithiasis, drug induced liver injury or even progressive familial intrahepatic cholestasis type 3. Although PC lipids only account for 30–40% of the lipids in the canalicular membrane, 95% of all phospholipids in bile are PC lipids. We discuss this discrepancy in the light of PC synthesis and bile salts favoring certain lipids. Nevertheless, the in vivo extraction of PC lipids from the outer leaflet of the canalicular membrane by bile salts should be considered as a separate step in bile formation. Therefore, methods to characterize disease causing ABCB4 mutations should be considered carefully, but such an analysis represents a crucial point in understanding the currently unknown transport mechanism of this ABC transporter.

Rise and rise of the ABC transporter families

This review will inevitably be influenced by my personal experience and personal view of the progression of this amazing family of proteins. This has generated a huge literature in over nearly five decades, some ideas have bloomed and faded while others have persisted, other contributions simply become redundant, overtaken by better techniques. At the outset, the pioneers had no idea of the magnitude of the topic they were working on, then a very rough idea of the significance emerged and, progressively, the picture becomes sharper and finally extraordinary. I have tried to produce at least an outline of that progression. My apologies for the also inevitable omissions, especially relating to the mass of biochemical and spectroscopy and genetical studies. I decided to prioritise structural biology because structures when successful are definitive and of course provide a 'visual' image. However, I tried to limit the structural aspects to the proteins that reflected the main advances.

Structural Basis for the Serratia marcescens Lipase Secretion System: Crystal Structures of the Membrane Fusion Protein and Nucleotide-Binding Domain

Serratia marcescens secretes a lipase, LipA, through a type I secretion system (T1SS). The T1SS for LipA, the Lip system, is composed of an inner membrane ABC transporter with its nucleotide-binding domains (NBD), LipB, a membrane fusion protein, LipC, and an outer membrane channel protein, LipD. Passenger protein secreted by this system has been functionally and structurally characterized well, but relatively little information about the transporter complex is available. Here, we report the crystallographic studies of LipC without the membrane anchor region, LipC-, and the NBD of LipB (LipB-NBD). LipC- crystallographic analysis has led to the determination of the structure of the long α-helical and lipoyl domains, but not the area where it interacts with LipB, suggesting that the region is flexible without LipB. The long α-helical domain has three α-helices, which interacts with LipD in the periplasm. LipB-NBD has the common overall architecture and ATP hydrolysis activity of ABC transporter NBDs. Using the predicted models of full-length LipB and LipD, the overall structural insight into the Lip system is discussed.

A mutation within the extended X loop abolished substrate-induced ATPase activity of the human liver ATP-binding cassette (ABC) transporter MDR3

The human multidrug resistance protein 3 (MDR3/ABCB4) belongs to the ubiquitous family of ATP-binding cassette (ABC) transporters and is located in the canalicular membrane of hepatocytes. There it flops the phospholipids of the phosphatidylcholine (PC) family from the inner to the outer leaflet. Here, we report the characterization of wild type MDR3 and the Q1174E mutant, which was identified previously in a patient with progressive familial intrahepatic cholestasis type 3 (PFIC-3). We expressed different variants of MDR3 in the yeast Pichia pastoris, purified the proteins via tandem affinity chromatography, and determined MDR3-specific ATPase activity in the presence or absence of phospholipids. The ATPase activity of wild type MDR3 was stimulated 2-fold by liver PC or 1,2-dioleoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphatidylethanolamine lipids. Furthermore, the cross-linking of MDR3 with a thiol-reactive fluorophore blocked ATP hydrolysis and exhibited no PC stimulation. Similarly, phosphatidylethanolamine, phosphatidylserine, and sphingomyelin lipids did not induce an increase of wild type MDR3 ATPase activity. The phosphate analogues beryllium fluoride and aluminum fluoride led to complete inhibition of ATPase activity, whereas orthovanadate inhibited exclusively the PC-stimulated ATPase activity of MDR3. The Q1174E mutation is located in the nucleotide-binding domain in direct proximity of the leucine of the ABC signature motif and extended the X loop, which is found in ABC exporters. Our data on the Q1174E mutant demonstrated basal ATPase activity, but PC lipids were incapable of stimulating ATPase activity highlighting the role of the extended X loop in the cross-talk of the nucleotide-binding domain and the transmembrane domain.

Generating symmetry in the asymmetric ATP-binding cassette (ABC) transporter Pdr5 from Saccharomyces cerevisiae

Pdr5 is a plasma membrane-bound ABC transporter from Saccharomyces cerevisiae and is involved in the phenomenon of resistance against xenobiotics, which are clinically relevant in bacteria, fungi, and humans. Many fungal ABC transporters such as Pdr5 display an inherent asymmetry in their nucleotide-binding sites (NBS) unlike most of their human counterparts. This degeneracy of the NBSs is very intriguing and needs explanation in terms of structural and functional relevance. In this study, we mutated nonconsensus amino acid residues in the NBSs to its consensus counterpart and studied its effect on the function of the protein and effect on yeast cells. The completely "regenerated" Pdr5 protein was severely impaired in its function of ATP hydrolysis and of rhodamine 6G transport. Moreover, we observe alternative compensatory mechanisms to counteract drug toxicity in some of the mutants. In essence, we describe here the first attempts to restore complete symmetry in an asymmetric ABC transporter and to study its effects, which might be relevant to the entire class of asymmetric ABC transporters.

The power stroke driven by ATP binding in CFTR as studied by molecular dynamics simulations

Cystic fibrosis transmembrane conductance regulator (CFTR) is a chloride channel belonging to the ATP binding cassette (ABC) protein superfamily. Currently, it remains unclear how ATP binding causes the opening of the channel gate at the molecular level. To clarify this mechanism, we first constructed an atomic model of the inward-facing CFTR using the X-ray structures of other ABC proteins. Molecular dynamics (MD) simulations were then performed to explore the structure and dynamics of the inward-facing CFTR in a membrane environment. In the MgATP-bound state, two nucleotide-binding domains (NBDs) formed a head-to-tail type of dimer, in which the ATP molecules were sandwiched between the Walker A and signature motifs. Alternatively, one of the final MD structures in the apo state was similar to that of a "closed-apo" conformation found in the X-ray analysis of ATP-free MsbA. Principal component analysis for the MD trajectory indicated that NBD dimerization causes significant structural and dynamical changes in the transmembrane domains (TMDs), which is likely indicative of the formation of a chloride ion access path. This study suggests that the free energy gain from ATP binding acts as a driving force not only for NBD dimerization but also for NBD-TMD concerted motions.

Role of the D-loops in allosteric control of ATP hydrolysis in an ABC transporter

ABC transporters couple ATP hydrolysis to movement of substrates across cell membranes. They comprise two transmembrane domains and two cytosolic nucleotide-binding domains forming two active sites that hydrolyze ATP cooperatively. The mechanism of ATP hydrolysis is controversial and the structural dynamic basis of its allosteric control unknown. Here we report molecular dynamics simulations of the ATP/apo and ATP/ADP states of the bacterial ABC exporter Sav1866, in which the cytoplasmic region of the protein was simulated in explicit water for 150 ns. In the simulation of the ATP/apo state, we observed, for the first time, conformers of the active site with the canonical geometry for an in-line nucleophilic attack on the ATP γ-phosphate. The conserved glutamate immediately downstream of the Walker B motif is the catalytic base, forming a dyad with the H-loop histidine, whereas the Q-loop glutamine has an organizing role. Each D-loop provides a coordinating residue of the attacking water, and comparison with the simulation of the ATP/ADP state suggests that via their flexibility, the D-loops modulate formation of the hydrolysis-competent state. A global switch involving a coupling helix delineates the signal transmission route by which allosteric control of ATP hydrolysis in ABC transporters is mediated.

Characterization of the E506Q and H537A dysfunctional mutants in the E. coli ABC transporter MsbA

MsbA is a member of the ABC transporter superfamily that is specifically found in Gram-negative bacteria and is homologous to proteins involved in both bacterial and human drug resistance. The E506Q and H537A mutations have been introduced and used for crystallization of other members of the ABC transporter protein family, including BmrA and the ATPase domains MalK, HlyB-NBD, and MJ0796, but have not been previously studied in detail or investigated in the MsbA lipid A exporter. We utilized an array of biochemical and EPR spectroscopy approaches to characterize the local and global effects of these nucleotide binding domain mutations on the E. coli MsbA homodimer. The lack of cell viability in an in vivo growth assay confirms that the presence of the E506Q or H537A mutations within MsbA creates a dysfunctional protein. To further investigate the mode of dysfunction, a fluorescent ATP binding assay was used and showed that both mutant proteins maintain their ability to bind ATP, but ATPase assays indicate hydrolysis is severely inhibited by each mutation. EPR spectroscopy data using previously identified and characterized reporter sites within the nucleotide binding domain along with ATP detection assays show that hydrolysis does occur over time in both mutants, though more readily in the H537A protein. DEER spectroscopy demonstrates that both proteins studied are purified in a closed dimer conformation, indicating that events within the cell can induce a stable, closed conformation of the MsbA homodimer that does not reopen even in the absence of nucleotide.

Conformational changes induced by ATP-hydrolysis in an ABC transporter: a molecular dynamics study of the Sav1866 exporter

ATP-Binding Cassette (ABC) transporters are ubiquitous membrane proteins that use energy from ATP binding or/and hydrolysis to actively transport allocrites across membranes. In this study, we identify ATP-hydrolysis induced conformational changes in a complete ABC exporter (Sav1866) from Staphylococcus aureaus, using molecular dynamics (MD) simulations. By performing MD simulations on the ATP and ADP+IP bound states, we identify the conformational consequences of hydrolysis, showing that the major rearrangements are not restricted to the NBDs, but extend to the transmembrane domains (TMDs) external regions. For the first time, to our knowledge, we see, within the context of a complete transporter, NBD dimer opening in the ADP+IP state in contrast with all ATP-bound states. This opening results from the dissociation of the ABC signature motif from the nucleotide. In addition, in both states, we observe the opening of a gate entrance in the intracellular loop region leading to the exposure of the TMDs internal cavity to the cytoplasm. To see if this opening was large enough to allow allocrite transport, the adiabatic energy profile for doxorubicin passage was determined. For both states, this profile, although an approximation, is overall downhill from the cytoplasmatic to the extracellular side, and the local energy barriers along the TMDs are relatively small, evidencing the exporter nature of Sav1866. The major difference between states is an energy barrier located in the cytoplasmic gate region, which becomes reduced upon hydrolysis, suggesting that allocrite passage is facilitated, and evidencing a possible molecular mechanism for the active transport in these proteins.

Glutamine residues in Q-loops of multidrug resistance protein MRP1 contribute to ATP binding via interaction with metal cofactor

Structural analyses of bacterial ATP-binding-cassette transporters revealed that the glutamine residue in Q-loop plays roles in interacting with: 1) a metal cofactor to participate in ATP binding; 2) a putative catalytic water molecule to participate in ATP hydrolysis; 3) other residues to transmit the conformational changes between nucleotide-binding-domains and transmembrane-domains, in ATP-dependent solute transport. We have mutated the glutamines at 713 and 1375 to asparagine, methionine or leucine to determine the functional roles of these residues in Q-loops of MRP1. All these single mutants significantly decreased Mg·ATP binding and increased the K(m) (Mg·ATP) and V(max) values in Mg·ATP-dependent leukotriene-C4 transport. However, the V(max) values of the double mutants Q713N/Q1375N, Q713M/Q1375M and Q713L/Q1375L were lower than that of wtMRP1, implying that the double mutants cannot efficiently bind Mg·ATP. Interestingly, MRP1 has higher affinity for Mn·ATP than for Mg·ATP and the Mn·ATP-dependent leukotriene-C4 transport activities of Q713N/Q1375N and Q713M/Q1375M are significantly higher than that of wtMRP1. All these results suggest that: 1) the glutamine residues in Q-loops contribute to ATP-binding via interaction with a metal cofactor; 2) it is most unlikely that these glutamine residues would play crucial roles in ATP hydrolysis and in transmitting the conformational changes between nucleotide-binding-domains and transmembrane-domains.

Small molecule correctors of F508del-CFTR discovered by structure-based virtual screening

Folding correctors of F508del-CFTR were discovered by in silico structure-based screening utilizing homology models of CFTR. The intracellular segment of CFTR was modeled and three cavities were identified at inter-domain interfaces: (1) Interface between the two Nucleotide Binding Domains (NBDs); (2) Interface between NBD1 and Intracellular Loop (ICL) 4, in the region of the F508 deletion; (3) multi-domain interface between NBD1:2:ICL1:2:4. We hypothesized that compounds binding at these interfaces may improve the stability of the protein, potentially affecting the folding yield or surface stability. In silico structure-based screening was performed at the putative binding-sites and a total of 496 candidate compounds from all three sites were tested in functional assays. A total of 15 compounds, representing diverse chemotypes, were identified as F508del folding correctors. This corresponds to a 3% hit rate, ~tenfold higher than hit rates obtained in corresponding high-throughput screening campaigns. The same binding sites also yielded potentiators and, most notably, compounds with a dual corrector-potentiator activity (dual-acting). Compounds harboring both activity types may prove to be better leads for the development of CF therapeutics than either pure correctors or pure potentiators. To the best of our knowledge this is the first report of structure-based discovery of CFTR modulators.

Toxins and secretion systems of Photorhabdus luminescens

Photorhabdus luminescens is a nematode-symbiotic, gram negative, bioluminescent bacterium, belonging to the family of Enterobacteriaceae. Recent studies show the importance of this bacterium as an alternative source of insecticides, as well as an emerging human pathogen. Various toxins have been identified and characterized in this bacterium. These toxins are classified into four major groups: the toxin complexes (Tcs), the Photorhabdus insect related (Pir) proteins, the “makes caterpillars floppy” (Mcf) toxins and the Photorhabdus virulence cassettes (PVC); the mechanisms however of toxin secretion are not fully elucidated. Using bioinformatics analysis and comparison against the components of known secretion systems, multiple copies of components of all known secretion systems, except the ones composing a type IV secretion system, were identified throughout the entire genome of the bacterium. This indicates that Photorhabdus luminescens has all the necessary means for the secretion of virulence factors, thus it is capable of establishing a microbial infection.

Characterization of an asymmetric occluded state of P-glycoprotein with two bound nucleotides: implications for catalysis

P-glycoprotein (ABCB1), a member of the ABC superfamily, functions as an ATP-driven multidrug efflux pump. The catalytic cycle of ABC proteins is believed to involve formation of a sandwich dimer in which two ATP molecules are bound at the interface of the nucleotide binding domains (NBDs). However, such dimers have only been observed in isolated NBD subunits and catalytically arrested mutants, and it is still not understood how ATP hydrolysis is coordinated between the two NBDs. We report for the first time the characterization of an asymmetric state of catalytically active native P-glycoprotein with two bound molecules of adenosine 5'-(gamma-thio)triphosphate (ATPgammaS), one of low affinity (K(d) 0.74 mm), and one "occluded" nucleotide of 120-fold higher affinity (K(d) 6 microm). ATPgammaS also interacts with P-glycoprotein with high affinity as assessed by inhibition of ATP hydrolysis and protection from covalent labeling of a Walker A Cys residue, whereas other non-hydrolyzable ATP analogues do not. Binding of ATPgammaS (but not ATP) causes Trp residue heterogeneity, as indicated by collisional quenching, suggesting that it may induce conformational asymmetry. Asymmetric ATPgammaS-bound P-glycoprotein does not display reduced binding affinity for drugs, implying that transport is not driven by ATP binding and likely takes place at a later stage of the catalytic cycle. We propose that this asymmetric state with two bound nucleotides represents the next intermediate on the path toward ATP hydrolysis after nucleotide binding, and an alternating sites mode of action is achieved by simultaneous switching of the two active sites between high and low affinity states.

Effects of putative catalytic base mutation E211Q on ABCG2-mediated methotrexate transport

ABCG2 is a half-ATP binding cassette (ABC) drug transporter that consists of a nucleotide binding domain (NBD) followed by a transmembrane domain. This half-ABC transporter is thought to form a homodimer in the plasma membrane where it transports anticancer drugs across the biological membranes in an ATP-dependent manner. Substitution of the putative catalytic residue E211 with a nonacidic amino acid glutamine (E211Q) completely abolished its ATPase activity and ATP-dependent methotrexate transport, suggesting that ATP hydrolysis is required for the ATP-dependent solute transport. However, whether one ATP hydrolysis or two ATP hydrolyses in the homodimer of ABCG2 with the NBD.ATP.ATP.NBD sandwich structure is/are required for the ATP-dependent solute transport is not known yet. To address this question, we have made an YFP/ABCG2 fusion protein and expressed this 99 kDa fusion protein alone or along with the 70 kDa E211Q-mutated ABCG2 in BHK cells. Although membrane vesicles prepared from BHK cells expressing YFP/ABCG2 exert higher ATPase activity than that of wt ABCG2, the dATP-dependent methotrexate transport activities of these two proteins are the same. Interestingly, membrane vesicles prepared from BHK cells expressing both YFP/ABCG2 and E211Q-mutated ABCG2 (with a ratio of 1:1) form homodimers and heterodimer and exert 55% of wt ABCG2 ATPase activity that can be further enhanced by anticancer drugs, suggesting that the wt NBD in the heterodimer of YFP/ABCG2 and E211Q may be able to hydrolyze ATP. Furthermore, the membrane vesicles containing both YFP/ABCG2 and E211Q exert approximately 79% of wt ABCG2-mediated methotrexate transport activity, implying that the heterodimer harboring YFP/ABCG2 and E211Q may be able to transport the anticancer drug methotrexate across the biological membranes.

The multidrug resistance efflux complex, EmrAB from Escherichia coli forms a dimer in vitro

Tripartite efflux systems are responsible for the export of toxins across both the inner and outer membranes of gram negative bacteria. Previous work has indicated that EmrAB-TolC from Escherichia coli is such a tripartite system, comprised of EmrB an MFS transporter, EmrA, a membrane fusion protein and TolC, an outer membrane channel. The whole complex is predicted to form a continuous channel allowing direct export from the cytoplasm to the exterior of the cell. Little is known, however, about the interactions between the individual components of this system. Reconstitution of EmrA+EmrB resulted in co-elution of the two proteins from a gel filtration column indicating formation of the EmrAB complex. Electron microscopic single particle analysis of the reconstituted EmrAB complex revealed the presence of particles approximately 240x140A, likely to correspond to two EmrAB dimers in a back-to-back arrangement, suggesting the dimeric EmrAB form is the physiological state contrasting with the trimeric arrangement of the AcrAB-TolC system.

ATP hydrolysis and pristinamycin IIA inhibition of the Staphylococcus aureus Vga(A), a dual ABC protein involved in streptogramin A resistance

In Gram-positive bacteria, a large subfamily of dual ATP-binding cassette proteins confers acquired or intrinsic resistance to macrolide, lincosamide, and streptogramin antibiotics by a far from well understood mechanism. Here, we report the first biochemical characterization of one such protein, Vga(A), which is involved in streptogramin A (SgA) resistance among staphylococci. Vga(A) is composed of two nucleotide-binding domains (NBDs), separated by a charged linker, with a C-terminal extension and without identified transmembrane domains. Highly purified Vga(A) displays a strong ATPase activity (K(m) = 78 mum, V(m) = 6.8 min(-1)) that was hardly inhibited by orthovanadate. Using mutants of the conserved catalytic glutamate residues, the two NBDs of Vga(A) were shown to contribute unequally to the total ATPase activity, the mutation at NBD2 being more detrimental than the other. ATPase activity of both catalytic sites was essential for Vga(A) biological function because each single Glu mutant was unable to confer SgA resistance in the staphylococcal host. Of great interest, Vga(A) ATPase was specifically inhibited in a non-competitive manner by the SgA substrate, pristinamycin IIA (PIIA). A deletion of the last 18 amino acids of Vga(A) slightly affected the ATPase activity without modifying the PIIA inhibition values. In contrast, this deletion reduced 4-fold the levels of SgA resistance. Altogether, our results suggest a role for the C terminus in regulation of the SgA antibiotic resistance mechanism conferred by Vga(A) and demonstrate that this dual ATP-binding cassette protein interacts directly and specifically with PIIA, its cognate substrate.

Genomics and the mechanism of P-glycoprotein (ABCB1)

The development of effective clinical interventions against multidrug resistance (MDR) in cancer remains a significant challenge. Single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) contribute to wide variations in how individuals respond to medications and there are several SNPs in human P-glycoprotein (P-gp) that may influence the interactions of drug-substrates with the transporter. Interestingly, even some of the synonymous SNPs have functional consequences for P-gp. It is also becoming increasingly evident that an understanding of the transport pathway of P-gp may be necessary to design effective modulators. In this review we discuss: (1) The potential importance of SNPs (both synonymous and non-synonymous) in MDR and (2) How new concepts that have emerged from structural studies with isolated nucleotide binding domains of bacterial ABC transporters have prompted biochemical studies on P-gp, leading to a better understanding of the mechanism of P-gp mediated transport. Our results suggest that the power-stroke is provided only after formation of the pre-hydrolysis transition-like (E.S) state during ATP hydrolysis.

Evidence for a Sav1866-like architecture for the human multidrug transporter P-glycoprotein

The recently reported structures of the bacterial multidrug exporter Sav1866 suggest a domain architecture in which both nucleotide-binding domains (NBDs) of this ATP binding cassette (ABC) transporter contact both transmembrane domains (TMDs). Such a domain arrangement is particularly unexpected because it is not found in the structures of three solute importers BtuCD, HI1470/1, and ModBC from the same protein family. There is also no precedent for such an arrangement from biochemical studies with any ABC transporter. Sav1866 is homologous with the clinically relevant human P-glycoprotein (ABCB1). If the structure proposed for Sav1866 is physiologically relevant, the long intracellular loops of P-glycoprotein TMD2 should contact NBD1. We have tested this by using cysteine mutagenesis and chemical cross-linking to verify proximal relationships of the introduced sulfhydryls across the proposed interdomain interface. We report the first biochemical evidence in support of the domain arrangement proposed for the multidrug resistance class of ABC transporters. With a domain arrangement distinctly different from the three solute importers it seems likely that the TMDs of ABC importers and exporters have evolved different mechanisms to couple to common conformational changes at conserved NBDs.