HLA genes in Barranquilla (North Colombia): Searching for cryptic Amerindian genes

America First Inhabitants population (Amerindians, Na Dene and Eskimos) underwent a drastic population reduction and gene exchange after Europeans and Africans arrival after 1492 AD. Barranquilla population may be a good model to study present day population admixture in South America. HLA-A, -B and -DRB1 DNA typing has been performed in 188 unrelated individuals originated in the area and speak Spanish language; they showed apparent European/African and mixed characters. HLA genetic European/African features were found and only 1.85% Amerindian one. This contrasts with neighboring Cuban population where 10% HLA Amerindian characters appear.

Study of association of CTLA4 gene variants to non-anterior uveitis

This study was undertaken to investigate the possible genetic association of functional CTLA4 polymorphisms with susceptibility to non-anterior uveitis. Four hundred and seventeen patients with endogenous non-anterior uveitis and 1517 healthy controls of Spanish Caucasian origin were genotyped for the CTLA4 polymorphisms rs733618, rs5742909 and rs231775, using predesigned TaqMan(©) allele discrimination assays. PLINK software was used for the statistical analyses. No significant associations between the CTLA4 polymorphisms and susceptibility to global non-anterior uveitis were found. It was also the case when the potential association of these genetic variants with the anatomical localization of the disease, such as intermediate, posterior or panuveitis, was assessed. Our results do not support a relevant role of these CTLA4 polymorphisms in the non-anterior uveitis genetic predisposition.

New CD3zeta allele showing a 9-bp deletion in the 3'-UT region of the gene

We report here a non-previously described 9-bp deletion in the 3'-UT region of the CD3zeta gene, located in between two AREs.

Higher proliferative capacity of T lymphocytes from patients with Crohn disease than from ulcerative colitis is disclosed by use of Herpesvirus saimiri-transformed T-cell lines

BACKGROUND

T lymphocytes play a crucial role in the pathogenesis of inflammatory bowel disease. Achieving stable T-cell lines, rather than continuous bleeding of patients, is desirable in order to dissect their implication in the disease.

METHODS

Long-lasting T-cell lines from patients with Crohn disease and ulcerative colitis and from healthy volunteers have been obtained by transformation of T lymphocytes using the lymphotropic Herpesvirus saimiri. Lines were subjected to phenotypic and functional analyses, and the results compared with freshly isolated peripheral blood mononuclear cells.

RESULTS

Fresh cells revealed only minor differences between patients and controls, with regard to phenotype and proliferative capacity. In contrast, the use of T-cell lines showed that cells from Crohn disease patients, but not ulcerative colitis patients, over-responded to several membrane or cytoplasmic stimuli when compared to control T-cell lines. Thus, higher responses were found when stimulated with alphaCD3 and IL2, alphaCD3 and alphaCD28, IL2 alone, phorbol esters (PMA) and alphaCD3 and, finally, PMA and alphaCD2 (P < 0.05 in all instances). Further, lines from patients with Crohn disease responded more vigorously to alphaCD3 and alphaCD28 or alphaCD3 and PMA when compared to ulcerative colitis (P < 0.05 in both instances).

CONCLUSIONS

The data obtained with these lines suggest that T cells from patients with Crohn disease differ in vivo in their proliferative capacity, as compared with those from ulcerative colitis patients, a finding that may reflect the clear Th-1 phenotype found in the former and absent in the latter.

Coeliac- and enteropathy-associated autoantibodies in Spanish insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus patients and their relation to HLA antigens

The frequency of reticulin (ARA), endomysium (EmA), and gut epithelial cell (GECA) autoantibodies, and gliadin antibodies (AGA), was investigated in 86 Spanish diabetic patients by indirect immunofluorescence (IFI) and ELISA, along with their HLA phenotype. Four patients (5%) showed ARA-IgG (R1 pattern), eight (9%) showed AGA-IgG, and eight (9%) showed AGA-IgA. No EmA or GECA-positive patients were found. In diabetic patients, HLA-DR7 is increased in ARA-IgG+ vs. ARA-IgG- (though not significantly), and HLA-DR6 and HLA-DQ1 are significantly increased in the AGA-IgG+ group vs. the AGA-IgG- group. Comparison with a non-diabetic coeliac group showed that HLA-DR4 and HLA-DQ3 are significantly increased in the AGA-IgA+ group, whereas HLA-DQ2 shows a significant decrease in the AGA-IgG+ and AGA-IgA+ patients. Finally, when compared to the healthy group, HLA-DR7 frequency is decreased in the ARA-IgG- group, while HLA-DQ3 is significantly increased and HLA-DR6 and HLA-DQ1 significantly decreased in the AGA-IgG- group.Altogether, these data suggest that the genetic background leading to the appearance of coeliac-specific autoantibodies in Spanish diabetic patients differ depending on the autoantibody produced and is also different to the genetic background leading to diabetes in Spain.

Lens culinaris, Phaseolus vulgaris and vicia faba lectins specifically trigger IL-8 production by the human colon carcinoma cell line CACO-2

Cultured Caco-2 cells were stimulated with Lens culinaris, Phaseolus vulgarisandVicia fabalectins. The production of IL-1, IL-6, IL-8 and MCP-1 was measured by ELISA and RT-PCR. IL-8 production appeared to be specifically triggered upon stimulation with all three lectins used, since none of the other cytokines tested were produced. The IL-8 secreted may induce the extravasation of activated neutrophils and generate tissue damage. A similar mechanism may be implicated in the lesions observed after infection by some enteric pathogens, with lectin-like domains on their membrane. Finally, this model may be suitable one to study the regulation of IL-8 production.

Evolutionary relationships between HLA-B alleles as indicated by an analysis of intron sequences

The HLA-B locus is the most polymorphic of the class I genes encoded within the human major histocompatibility complex. This polymorphism is mainly located in exons 2 and 3, which code for the molecule's alpha1 and alpha2 domains and includes the antigenic peptide binding site. However, information about adjacent non-coding regions (introns 1 and 2) has not been extensively reported but could be very important in establishing an understanding of the evolutionary mechanisms involved in the polymorphism generation of HLA-B and the Mhc loci. In the present work, introns 1 and 2 of 14 HLA-B alleles are studied and their significance is discussed; 10 have been sequenced in our own laboratory and the other 4 have been previously reported by others. Different serological families share the complete intron 1 sequence; at this region, 12 out of 14 HLA-B alleles could be included in four groups with the same intron 1 sequence: a) B*0702, B*4201, B*4801; b) B*27052, B*4002, B*4011; c) B*40012, B*4101, including B*4501, B*5001 (these latter two alleles have specific characteristics in both introns 1 and 2, which may reflect a common evolutionary pathway); and d) B*44031, B*44032. The other alleles, B*1402, and B*1801, do not have identical intron 1 sequences compared to any of the described groups, but share many similarities with them. The B*1801 evolutionary pathway seems to be very specific since it branches separately from other alleles both in intron 1 and intron 2 dendrograms. On the other hand, HLA-B allelic group distribution and similarities according to intron 1 sequences were not confirmed when using intron 2, especially in the cases of B*4002, B*4101 and B*4801. This would suggest that both point mutations fixed by genetic drift and gene conversion events are involved in HLA-B diversification. The latter events could be supported by the strong homology between intron 1 and, to a lesser extent, intron 2, and also the CG content within them. Finally, the precise knowledge of these non-coding regions could be important for developing DNA base typing strategies for the HLA-B alleles.

Complete cDNA sequence of the HLA-DRB1*09012 allele

Sequencing studies of HLA class II molecules have focused almost exclusively on exon 2. In this study the complete cDNA sequence of the DRB1*09012 allele is reported for the first time. This sequence was previously only partially published. In the DR9 antigen, two synonymous allelic variants (DRB1*09011 and 09012) were officially recognized, though it was later found that the first one contained an error and both sequences were, thus, identical.

Polymorphism of Mhc-DRB alleles in Cercopithecus aethiops (green monkey): generation and functionality

DRB genes have been studied for the first time in green monkeys (Cercopithecus aethiops). Eleven new DRB alleles (exon 2, exon 3) have been obtained and sequenced from cDNA. A limited number of lineages have been identified: DRB1*03 (4 alleles), DRB1*07 (3 alleles), DRB5 (1 allele), DRB*w6 (1 allele), and DRB*w7 (2 alleles). The existence of Ceae-DRB1 duplications is supported by the finding of 3 DRB1 alleles in 3 different individuals. Ceae-DRB1*0701 may be non-functional because it bears serine at position 82, which hinders molecule surface expression in mice; the allele is only found in Ceae-DRB duplicated haplotypes. Base changes in cDNA Ceae-DRB alleles are consistent with the generation of polymorphism by point mutations or short segment exchanges between alleles. The eleven green monkey DRB alleles meet the requirements for functionality as antigen-presenting molecules (perhaps, excluding DRB1*0701), since: 1) they have been isolated from cDNA and do not present deletions, insertions or stop codons: 2) structural motifs necessary for a correct folding of the molecule, for the formation of DR/DR dimers and for CD4 interactions are conserved, and 3) the number of non-synonymous substitutions is higher than the number of synonymous substitutions in the peptide binding region (PBR), while the contrary holds true for the non-PBR region.

Differential contribution of HLA-DR, DQ, and TAP2 alleles to systemic lupus erythematosus susceptibility in Spanish patients: role of TAP2*01 alleles in Ro autoantibody production

OBJECTIVE

To study the influence MHC class II and TAP2 alleles exert on systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) susceptibility and on the clinical and serological manifestations of the disease, in a cohort of Spanish patients.

METHODS

HLA-DR serological typing and HLA-DQA, DQB, and TAP2 DNA sequence specific oligotyping, were carried out in 85 unrelated Spanish SLE patients and 186 healthy controls. Autoantibodies detection was carried out by indirect immunofluorescence and counter immunoelectrophoresis.

RESULTS

Total SLE group: the frequency of HLA-DR3 and HLA-DQA1*0501 is significantly increased in this group (pc < 0.005, delta = 0.34 and pc < 0.005, delta = 0.45, respectively) although the highest delta value (delta = 0.87) is obtained when the TAP2*01 alleles are considered. No DQB allele shows significant deviation from the control group. Renal damage: it mainly occurs in HLA-DR3 patients (pc < 0.0005 and delta = 0.72). HLA-DQA1*0501 (p < 0.05, delta = 0.57 and DQB1*0201 (pc NS, delta = 0.56) are weaker susceptibility factors. Ro+ (but not LA) group: this autoantibody response is associated with TAP2*01 alleles in homozygosity (p < 0.05, delta = 0.81). R0/La+ group: it has a different genetic background as HLA-DQA1*0501 (delta = 1) and HLA-DQB1*0201 (delta = 1) are the main susceptibility factors.

CONCLUSIONS

A differential association between HLA-DR, DQA1, and DQB1 alleles and SLE or its clinical and serological manifestations are found. Furthermore, the associations are different to the ones reported in other ethnic groups. Finally, TAP2*01 group of alleles are associated with the highest susceptibility to SLE (higher than HLA-DR3) and may influence Ro (but not La) autoantibodies production, whereas HLA-DQA1*0501 and DQB1*0201 mediates concomitant Ro and La productions.

Cell surface phenotype and ultramicroscopic analysis of purified human enterocytes: a possible antigen-presenting cell in the intestine

Epithelial cells of the intestine seem to act as antigen-presenting cells to surrounding lymphoid tissue and may be crucial to maintain the pool of peripheral T lymphocytes. The scope of this study was to carry out an immunophenotypic and ultramicroscopic analysis of purified human enterocytes to elucidate their role as antigen-presenting cells, in the immune responses in the gut-associated lymphoid tissue. A method has been developed to obtain purified and viable human enterocyte populations, later labeled with relevant monoclonal antibodies directed to leukocyte antigens and subjected to cytofluorometric analysis. Phenotypic analysis revealed the presence of markers common to "classical" antigen-presenting cells (CD14, CD35, CD39, CD43, CD63 and CD64), reinforcing the idea that enterocytes may act as such. Moreover, several integrins (CD11b, CD11c, CD18, CD41a, CD61 and CD29) were also found. CD25 (IL-2 receptor alpha chain) and CD28, characteristic of T cells, were detected on the surface of these cells; this latter finding rises the possibility that enterocytes could be activated by IL-2 and/or via CD28 through binding to its ligands CD80 or CD86. Finally, the presence of CD21, CD32, CD35 and CD64 that may bind immune complexes via Fc or C3, suggests their participation in the metabolism of immune complexes. Furthermore, the finding of a Birbeck's-like granule in the cytoplasm of the cells, shows that enterocytes contain an ultramicroscopic feature previously thought to be characteristic of Langerhans' cells, an antigen-presenting cell. The phenotype detected on the surface of enterocytes, along with their ultramicroscopic characteristics, suggests that they may play an important role in the immune responses elicited in the gut, presenting antigens to surrounding lymphoid cells, and establishing cognate interactions with them.

Diploid expression of human leukocyte antigen class I and class II molecules on spermatozoa and their cyclic inverse correlation with inhibin concentration

A diploid expression of class I and class II human leukocyte antigens (HLA) has been found in purified spermatozoa by using double fluorescence labeling cytofluorometry and relevant monoclonal antibodies; this expression has been confirmed for the first time by the analysis of specific HLA mRNA and metabolic 35S labeling followed by immunoprecipitation, which demonstrates an active ongoing translation of HLA proteins in germinal cells. Long-living mRNA coming from diploid germinal cells may be translated to HLA molecules in spermatozoa. This translation is controlled (or at least inversely correlated) by a testicular hormone (inhibin) in a cyclic fashion. Remarkably, serum levels of inhibin, synthesized by Leydig and Sertoli cells, follow a 12- to 13-day cycle, with a peak level at Day 6; this is probably controlled by FSH (not cyclic in males) and other testicular and/or unknown hormones. Peak levels of inhibin concur with the lower density and percentage of spermatozoa expressing both HLA class I and II molecules (close to 3% by cytofluorometry); lowest levels of inhibin coincide with the highest numbers (35-40%) of spermatozoa positive for both HLA molecules and a higher surface density. These observations could put to an end a disconcerting and long-lasting controversy on the expression/non-expression of HLA antigens on spermatozoa. The possibility that HLA-bearing spermatozoa are more capacitated for fertilization than those that do not bear HLA, and the implications of our results on male fertility control are also discussed.

Polymorphism of the heat-shock protein gene HSP70-2 in systemic lupus erythematosus

We investigate whether a heat-shock protein gene (HSP70-2) is involved in determining susceptibility to systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) in a Spanish population. A HSP70-2 PstI polymorphism was characterized by restriction fragment length polymorphism analysis of polymerase chain reaction-amplified genomic DNA in 90 SLE patients and 117 controls. The PstI site containing allele (B) was significantly increased in SLE patients compared to healthy controls. This was due to a significant increase in the BB homozygous genotype in patients, particularly in those with diffuse proliferative nephritis. Neither allelic nor genotypic differences were detected when compared by the presence or absence of DR3. The HSP70-2 B allele seems tightly linked to the human leucocyte antigen (HLA) haplotypes carrying susceptibility to SLE in our population. An independent role for this gene cannot be confirmed due to its linkage with HLA DR3.

HLA class I, class II, and class III antigen sharing is not found in couples with unexplained infertility

OBJECTIVE

To find the degree of HLA antigen sharing in couples with infertility of unknown etiology and compare it with that in couples with infertility of known etiology as well as couples with normal fertility.

SUBJECTS

Eleven couples with infertility of unknown etiology, 26 with infertility of known etiology, and 31 fertile couples were tested for HLA class I (A, B, C), class II (DR, MLC), and class III (Bf) antigens and GLO alleles. HLA lymphocytotoxic antibodies and anti-sperm antibodies in both partners were also searched.

RESULTS

Gene frequencies and the number of HLA antigens shared between the two members of the couple were similar in all groups. When "intra-couple" MLC reactivity was measured, no quantitative differences were found in the infertile group with unknown etiology, as compared to the group of known etiology: spouses in couples of either group usually reacted in both ways as expected for unrelated individuals" lymphocytes. Lymphocytotoxic antibody frequency did not differ between the nonfertile groups, and anti-sperm antibodies, found in ten patients in the group of known etiology, were not associated with any HLA antigen. In spite of that, GLO and all the HLA antigen classes described (I, II and III) were analyzed.

CONCLUSIONS

Although the results are negative, these and others' (negative) results concerning couples with infertility of unknown etiology do not disprove that HLA has a role in fertilization, because HLA-related factors still unknown may exist. Exhaustive HLA available marker typing in international cooperative efforts may be needed to reach a significant number of carefully selected couples fully HLA typed to elucidate this problem.

Three new HLA-G alleles and their linkage disequilibria with HLA-A

Three new allelic forms of the HLA-G DNA sequence (HLA-G*II, HLA-G*III, and HLA-G*IV) have been identified. With the HLA-G*I sequence (previously designated HLA 6.0) as a reference, HLA-G*II shows a silent (G-->A) mutation at the third base of codon 57, HLA-G*III bears a non-synonymous (A-->T), but conservative, (Thr-->Ser) substitution at the first base of codon 31, and HLA-G*IV shows two silent substitutions: (A-->T) at the third base of codon 107 and (G-->A) at the third base of codon 57. A rapid method of singling out each allele on genomic DNA has been developed by using polymerase chain reaction amplification followed by restriction endonuclease treatment. Also, more or less strong linkage disequilibria has been found between most HLA-A alleles and either HLA-G*I or *II, both being the most prevalent alleles in the population, with a genotypic frequency of 0.55 and 0.38, respectively; HLA-G*III is very rare and HLA-G*IV has a genotypic frequency of 0.07. An evolutive classification of HLA-A alleles results according to their association with either HLA-G*I or HLA-G*II, which does not correlate with the classical serological cross-reacting groups classification. The finding of a strong and selective A/G linkage disequilibria with most HLA-A alleles, together with the existence of less frequent random A/G associations, may suggest that there exist in different haplotypes true and varied A/G genetic distances (and not a recombinational hotspot). It may be inferred from preliminary data that in primates HLA-A/G haplotypes bearing G*II may have appeared later than those bearing G*I.

Differential contribution of C4 and HLA-DQ genes to systemic lupus erythematosus susceptibility

The particular histocompatability antigen (HLA) gene(s) that may confer systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) susceptibility remains unknown. In the present study, 58 unrelated patients and 69 controls have been analyzed for their class I and class II serologic antigens, class II (DR and DQ) DNA restriction fragment length polymorphism, their deduced DQA1 and B1 exon 2 nucleotide sequences and their corresponding amino acid residues. By using the etiologic fraction (delta) as an almost absolute measure of the strongest linkage disequilibrium of an HLA marker to the putative SLE susceptibility locus, it has been found that the strength of association of the HLA marker may be quantified as follows: DQA1*0501 (associated to DR3) or DQB1*0201 (associated to DR3) > non Asp 57 beta DQ/Arg 52 alpha DQ > DR3 > non Asp 57 beta DQ. Thus, molecular HLA DQ markers tend to be more accurate as susceptibility markers than the classical serologic markers (DR3). However, dominant or recessive non Asp 57 beta DQ susceptibility theories, as previously postulated for insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus, do not hold in our SLE nephritic population; indeed, three patients bear neither Arg 52 alpha DQ nor Asp 57 beta DQ suscepibility factors. On the other hand, nonsusceptibility factors are included in our population in the A30B18CF130-DR3DQ2(Dw25) haplotype and not in A1B8CS01-DR3DQ2(Dw24); this distinctive association has also been recorded in type I diabetes mellitus and may reflect the existence of common pathogenic HLA-linked factors for both diseases only in the A30B18CF10DR3DQ2(Dw25) haplotype. Finally, the observed increase of deleted C4 genes (and not 'null' C4 proteins) in nephritic patients shows that C4 genes are disease markers, but probably without a pathogenic role.

Human T-cell activation deficiencies

The increasing understanding of T-cell activation is paralleled by the recognition of a growing range of 'experiments of nature' that cause T-cell activation deficiencies. Analysis of these deficiencies is, in turn, contributing to the understanding of T-cell function in vivo. Here, José Regueiro, Antonio Arnaiz-Villena and colleagues review current knowledge of structural and functional T-cell defects and the implications of these for T-cell biology.

Immunogenetics of systemic lupus erythematosus in Spanish patients: differential HLA markers

HLA-DR3 antigen included in the compound phenotype B18BfF1 (but not the one linked to the B8BfS compound phenotype) was found to be significantly increased in our SLE patients. It is remarkable that in our Southern-Mediterranean population, B18BfF1DR3 individuals (but not B8BfSDR3) are prone to SLE with renal disease, in contrast with other Northern European and Caucasoid populations. Also, patients with autoantibodies to Ro/La have a significant increase of the B8DR3 compound phenotype. Production of autoantibodies against Ro alone was associated to DR2 and production of anti-Sm/nRNP to DR3 (either B18BfF1 or B8BfS associated) only in the subgroup without renal disease. The distinctive HLA and autoimmune associations to SLE with and without renal disease suggests that both clinical forms may not share a common identical pathogenesis.

T-lymphocyte dysfunctions occurring together with apical gut epithelial cell autoantibodies

Gut epithelial cell autoantibodies have been considered a hallmark of autoimmune enteropathy, a disorder occurring in children with protracted diarrhea of unknown etiology. Four patients (two male and two female) with such autoantibodies were studied. Immunofluorescence analysis showed two different disjunctive staining patterns: complement-fixing apical (three of four) and cytoplasmic (the remaining fourth one), which are shown to be directed against different structures. All three patients positive for complement-fixing apical gut epithelial cell autoantibodies had abnormal T-cell responses in vitro, one of them with an immunoglobulin G2 immunoglobulin deficiency and another with an immunoglobulin A deficiency. An immunoglobulin A deficiency without T-cell alterations was also diagnosed in the cytoplasmic gut epithelial cell autoantibody-positive patient. These findings suggest that different immunologic alterations (either a T-cell abnormality or immunoglobulin deficiency) may favor the appearance of gut epithelial cell autoantibodies (complement-fixing apical or cytoplasmic, respectively). Furthermore, these autoantibodies should not be considered a specific marker of autoimmune enteropathy, because they may not always be associated with such a disease: two patients with apical gut epithelial cell autoantibodies showed no signs of intestinal lesion or diarrhea.

Familial incidence of C3 nephritic factor

C3 nephritic factor (NEF) has been found in 3 siblings presenting different (or none) degrees of renal disease. Other relatives, including their dead father, suffered from a renal illness. In 2 of the siblings, NEF activity was restricted to IgG1 and IgG3 subclasses. Familial NEF incidence and a shared C3 allotype and a common HLA haplotype including BfS alleles for the 3 NEF-positive siblings suggest that at least in our cases genetical factors may be involved in NEF generation.

An in vivo functional immune system lacking polyclonal T-cell surface expression of the CD3/Ti(WT31) complex

A polyclonal T-cell receptor complex (TCR) expression defect (as detected with monoclonal antibody WT31) has been found in two children belonging to an otherwise healthy Spanish family. One of the sibs (V, who had been vaccinated with attenuated poliomyelitis virus) showed clinical signs of immunodeficiency with an autoimmune syndrome, but the other (older) sib (D, vaccinated with attenuated rubella, measles, mumps, and poliomyelitis viruses) has been symptomless throughout life. In contrast to both sibs' normal expression of other peripheral leucocyte markers, as measured by flow cytometry (including CD1, CD2, CD4, CD8, and CD16), only about 6% of CD2+ polyclonal T cells expressed surface antigen-specific T-cell receptor (Ti/WT31), and only about 23% weakly expressed surface CD3 determinants. On the remaining CD2+ T cells in each sib the expression of Ti and CD3 was undetectable; the defect in CD3 expression is very likely secondary to the defect in Ti expression. Natural killer (NK) activity was not increased in any of the sibs, ruling out a high content of NK cells among their CD2+ lymphocytes. Functional data indicate that CD3-mediated T-cell activation with anti-CD3 monoclonals and Ti-mediated responses to allogeneic and tetanus toxoid antigens were severely depressed, whereas activation via CD2 was normal in the T lymphocytes of both sibs. Genes encoding for Ti alpha, beta, and gamma chains did not show major alterations by southern blot analysis, and polyclonal beta chain genes rearrangements were detected in both children's T-cell blasts. Family clustering suggests a genetic pathogenesis, but linkage to HLA or other blood group markers has not been found. Sib V had a concomitant autoimmune disease and died after a severe autoimmune haemolytic anaemia, indicating a relationship between the TCR and generation of autoimmune clones. However, the resistance of both individuals to infection and to vaccination with attenuated viruses, and the fact that sib D has been symptomless to date questions the relative importance of the TCR in the immune response against infection, and suggests that alternative T-cell activation pathways and non-specific defence mechanisms (external surfaces--bound and/or cellular) may suffice under certain circumstances.