Standardizing percutaneous Microwave Ablation in the treatment of Lung Tumors: a prospective multicenter trial (MALT study)

Performance of an Anti-Phase Technology-Powered Microwave Ablation System on Ex Vivo Liver, Lung and Kidney: Analysis of Temperature Trend, Ablation Size and Sphericity

PURPOSE

Investigating the performance of the new Dophi™ M150E Microwave Ablation System, in terms of temperature distribution, ablation size and shape, reproducibility.

MATERIALS AND METHODS

The Dophi™ M150E Microwave Ablation System was tested on ex vivo liver, lung and kidney, at 6 different settings of time, power and number of MW antennas (single antenna: 50 and 100 W at 5 and 10 min; double antenna: 75 W at 5 and 10 min). The temperature distribution was recorded by Fiber Bragg Grating sensors, placed at different distances from the antennas. The ablation axes were measured and the sphericity index was calculated.

RESULTS

The standard deviation of ablation axes was < 5 mm, except at the highest energy and time setting for the lung. A maximum temperature rise of ~ 80 °C was measured. The measured ablation axes are overall comparable with the manufacture's values, especially at lower power and with one MW antenna (average maximum difference is 7 mm). The mean sphericity index of 0.95, 0.79 and 0.9 was obtained for the liver, lung and kidney, respectively, with a single antenna. With double antenna setup, the sphericity index was closer to 1 when 75 W for 10 min were used.

CONCLUSIONS

Dophi™ M150E allows good reproducibility of ablation axes for all cases except in the lung at the highest energy level. With one antenna, an almost spherical ablation area for the liver and kidney was obtained. Using double antenna results in more homogeneous temperature distribution within the tissue compared to single antenna.

Enhanced abscopal anti-tumor response via a triple combination of thermal ablation, IL-21, and PD-1 inhibition therapy

Despite the success of immune checkpoint inhibitors (ICIs) in treating solid tumors, lots of patients remain unresponsive to this therapy. Microwave ablation (MWA) stimulates systemic adaptive immunity against tumor cells by releasing tumor antigens. Additionally, IL-21 has demonstrated importance in stimulating T-cell effector function. The combination of these three therapies-MWA, IL-21, and anti-PD-1 monoclonal antibodies (mAbs)-has yet to be explored in the context of cancer treatment.In this study, we explored the impact of thermal ablation on IL-21R expression in tumor-infiltrating lymphocytes (TILs). Subsequently, we assessed alterations in the tumor microenvironment (TME) and peripheral lymphoid organs. Additionally, we conducted a thorough examination of tumor-infiltrating CD45+ immune cells across various treatment groups using single-cell RNA sequencing (scRNA-seq). Moreover, we determined the potential anti-tumor effects of the triple combination involving MWA, IL-21, and anti-PD-1 mAbs.Our findings revealed that MWA upregulated the expression of IL-21R on various immune cells in the untreated tumors. The combination of MWA with IL-21 exhibited a robust abscopal anti-tumor effect, enhancing the effector function of CD8+ T cells and facilitating dendritic cells' maturation and antigen presentation in the untreated tumor. Notably, the observed abscopal anti-tumor effect resulting from the combination is contingent upon T-cell recirculation, indicating the reliance of systemic adaptive immunity for this treatment regimen. Additionally, the combination of MWA, IL-21, and PD-1 mAbs demonstrated profound abscopal anti-tumor efficacy. Our findings provide support for further clinical investigation into a triple combination therapy involving MWA, IL-21, and ICIs for the treatment of metastatic cancer.

Advances in the Treatment of Pulmonary Nodules

BACKGROUND

Early detection and accurate diagnosis of pulmonary nodules are crucial for improving patient outcomes. While surgical resection of malignant nodules is still the preferred treatment option, it may not be feasible for all patients. We aimed to discuss the advances in the treatment of pulmonary nodules, especially stereotactic body radiotherapy (SBRT) and interventional pulmonology technologies, and provide a range of recommendations based on our expertise and experience.

SUMMARY

Interventional pulmonology is an increasingly important approach for the management of pulmonary nodules. While more studies are needed to fully evaluate its long-term outcomes and benefits, the available evidence suggests that this technique can provide a minimally invasive and effective alternative for treating small malignancies in selected patients. We conducted a systematic literature review in PubMed, designed a framework to include the advances in surgery, SBRT, and interventional pulmonology for the treatment of pulmonary nodules, and provided a range of recommendations based on our expertise and experience.

KEY MESSAGES

As such, alternative therapeutic options such as SBRT and ablation are becoming increasingly important and viable. With recent advancements in bronchoscopy techniques, ablation via bronchoscopy has emerged as a promising option for treating pulmonary nodules. This study reviewed the advances of interventional pulmonology in the treatment of peripheral lung cancer patients that are not surgical candidates. We also discussed the challenges and limitations associated with ablation, such as the risk of complications and the potential for incomplete nodule eradication. These advancements hold great promise for improving the efficacy and safety of interventional pulmonology in treating pulmonary nodules.

Treatment strategies for malignant pulmonary nodule: beyond lobectomy. Point-counterpoint

PURPOSE OF REVIEW

Technological advancement in low-dose computed tomography resulted in an increased incidental discovery of early-stage lung cancer and multifocal ground glass opacity. The demand for parenchyma-preserving treatment strategies is greater now than ever. Pulmonary ablative therapy is a groundbreaking technique to offer local ablative treatment in a lung-sparing manner. It has become a promising technique in lung cancer management with its diverse applicability. In this article, we will review the current development of ablative therapy in lung and look into the future of this innovative technique.

RECENT FINDINGS

Current literature suggests that ablative therapy offers comparable local disease control to other local therapies and stereotactic body radiation therapy (SBRT), with a low risk of complications. In particular, bronchoscopic microwave ablation (BMWA) has considerably fewer pleural-based complications due to the avoidance of pleural puncture. BMWA can be considered in the multidisciplinary treatment pathway as it allows re-ablation and allows SBRT after BMWA.

SUMMARY

With the benefits which ablative therapy offers and its ability to incorporate into the multidisciplinary management pathway, we foresee ablative therapy, especially BMWA gaining significance in lung cancer treatment. Future directions on developing novel automated navigation platforms and the latest form of ablative energy would further enhance clinical outcomes for our patients.

Risk prediction of intraoperative pain in percutaneous microwave ablation of lung tumors under CT guidance

OBJECTIVES

To evaluate the effect of intraoperative pain in microwave ablation of lung tumors (MWALT) on local efficacy and establish the pain risk prediction model.

METHODS

It was a retrospectively study. Consecutive patients with MWALT from September 2017 to December 2020 were divided into mild and severe pain groups. Local efficacy was evaluated by comparing technical success, technical effectiveness, and local progression-free survival (LPFS) in two groups. All cases were randomly allocated into training and validation cohorts at a ratio of 7:3. A nomogram model was established using predictors identified by logistics regression in training dataset. The calibration curves, C-statistic, and decision curve analysis (DCA) were used to evaluate the accuracy, ability, and clinical value of the nomogram.

RESULTS

A total of 263 patients (mild pain group: n = 126; severe pain group: n = 137) were included in the study. Technical success rate and technical effectiveness rate were 100% and 99.2% in the mild pain group and 98.5% and 97.8% in the severe pain group. LPFS rates at 12 and 24 months were 97.6% and 87.6% in the mild pain group and 91.9% and 79.3% in the severe pain group (p = 0.034; HR: 1.90). The nomogram was established based on three predictors: depth of nodule, puncture depth, and multi-antenna. The prediction ability and accuracy were verified by C-statistic and calibration curve. DCA curve suggested the proposed prediction model was clinically useful.

CONCLUSIONS

Severe intraoperative pain in MWALT reduced the local efficacy. An established prediction model could accurately predict severe pain and assist physicians in choosing a suitable anesthesia type.

CLINICAL RELEVANCE STATEMENT

This study firstly provides a prediction model for the risk of severe intraoperative pain in MWALT. Physicians can choose a suitable anesthesia type based on pain risk, in order to improve patients' tolerance as well as local efficacy of MWALT.

KEY POINTS

• The severe intraoperative pain in MWALT reduced the local efficacy. • Predictors of severe intraoperative pain in MWALT were the depth of nodule, puncture depth, and multi-antenna. • The prediction model established in this study can accurately predict the risk of severe pain in MWALT and assist physicians in choosing a suitable anesthesia type.

Microwave Ablation for Inoperable Stage I Non-Small Cell Lung Cancer in Patients Aged ≥70 Years: A Prospective, Single-Center Study

PURPOSE

To evaluate the safety and survival outcomes of computed tomography-guided microwave ablation (MWA) for medically inoperable Stage I non-small cell lung cancer (NSCLC) in patients aged ≥70 years.

MATERIALS AND METHODS

This study was a prospective, single-arm, single-center clinical trial. The MWA clinical trial enrolled patients aged ≥70 years with medically inoperable Stage I NSCLC from January 2021 to October 2021. All patients received biopsy and MWA synchronously with the coaxial technique. The primary endpoints were 1-year overall survival (OS) and progression-free survival (PFS). The secondary endpoint was adverse events.

RESULTS

A total of 103 patients were enrolled. Ninety-seven patients were eligible and analyzed. The median age was 75 years (range, 70-91 years). The median diameter of tumors was 16 mm (range, 6-33 mm). Adenocarcinoma (87.6%) was the most common histologic finding. With a median follow-up of 16.0 months, the 1-year OS and PFS rates were 99.0% and 93.7%, respectively. There were no procedure-related deaths in any patient within 30 days after MWA. Most of the adverse events were minor.

CONCLUSION

MWA is an effective and safe treatment for patients aged ≥70 years with medically inoperable Stage I NSCLC.

Percutaneous image-guided thermal ablation of lung cancer: What is the evidence?

Thermal ablation techniques have now been used for more than twenty years in the treatment of primary lung tumours, predominantly non-small cell lung cancer (NSCLC). Although primarily used for the treatment of early-stage disease in non-surgical patients, thermal ablation is now also being used in selected patients with oligometastatic and oligoprogressive disease. This review discusses the techniques available for thermal ablation, the evidence for use of thermal ablation in primary lung tumours in early- and advanced-stage disease and compares thermal ablation to alternative treatment strategies.

Immunogenic change after percutaneous microwave ablation in pulmonary malignancies: Variation in immune cell subsets and cytokines in peripheral blood

Introduction

To investigate immunogenic changes after percutaneous microwave ablation (MWA) in pulmonary malignancies.

Methods

Twenty-two consecutive patients with pulmonary malignancies who underwent percutaneous lung tumor MWA were prospectively enrolled in this study. Peripheral blood samples were collected on the day before (D0) and one month (M1) after MWA. Changes in immune cell subsets (CD3+, CD4+, and CD8+ T cells, and B, natural killer, regulatory T (Treg), and CD3-CD20+ cells) and cytokines (interleukin [IL]-2, 4, 6, 10, 17A, tumor necrosis factor [TNF]-α, and interferon-γ) were noted and compared. Progression-free survival (PFS) and potentially related factors were analyzed.

Results

The proportion of CD8+ T cells increased from 22.95 ± 7.38% (D0) to 25.95 ± 9.16% (M1) (p = 0.031). The proportion of Treg cells decreased from 10.82 ± 4.52% (D0) to 8.77 ± 2.05% (M1) (p = 0.049). The IL-2 concentration was also decreased from 1.58 ± 0.46 pg/mL (D0) to 1.26 ± 0.60 pg/mL (M1) (p = 0.028). The reduction in Treg cells predicted PFS independently of clinical prognostic features in multivariate analysis (hazard ratio = 4.97, 95% confidence interval: 1.32-18.66, p = 0.018). A reduction in the proportion of Treg cells was observed in 15 patients (68.2%) and the average of the reduction was 2.05 ± 4.60%. Those patients with a reduction in the proportion of Treg cells that was more than average showed a significantly longer median PFS time than those with a reduction that was less than average (16 months vs. 8.5 months, p = 0.025).

Discussion

Percutaneous MWA of pulmonary malignancies leads to immunogenic changes. The reduction in the proportion of Treg cells was independently associated with PFS.

Image-guided percutaneous ablation for lung malignancies

Image-guided percutaneous lung ablation has proven to be an alternative and effective strategy in the treatment of lung cancer and other lung malignancies. Radiofrequency ablation, microwave ablation, and cryoablation are widely used ablation modalities in clinical practice that can be performed along or combined with other treatment modalities. In this context, this article will review the application of different ablation strategies in lung malignancies.

Survival benefit of thermal ablation therapy for patients with stage II-III non-small cell lung cancer: A propensity-matched analysis

Background

Thermal ablation (TA) is considered a safe alternative to surgical resection for the treatment of non-small cell lung cancer (NSCLC). While previous studies have shown that TA is beneficial for stage I NSCLC patients, however, few have reported on TA efficacy in patients with stage II-III NSCLC. The current study investigated the impact of TA on the overall survival (OS) and cancer-specific survival (CSS) of patients with stage II-III NSCLC.

Methods

Data on patients with stage II-III NSCLC who did not undergo surgical resection between 2004 and 2015 were extracted from the Surveillance, Epidemiology, and End Results (SEER) database. Propensity score matching (PSM), Kaplan-Meier survival curves, and Cox regression were used for statistical analyses.

Results

A total of 57,959 stage II-III NSCLC patients who did not undergo surgical resection were included in this study, 261 of whom received TA. Overall, TA was associated with a longer OS (p = 0.035) and CSS (p = 0.005) than non-ablation. After 1:3 PSM, 252 patients receiving TA and 732 patients not receiving ablation were enrolled in the matched cohort. The OS (p = 0.047) and CSS (p = 0.029) remained higher in the TA group than in the non-ablation group after PSM. Cox regression analysis showed that age, sex, primary tumor site, pathological type, tumor size, radiotherapy, chemotherapy, and thermal ablation were independently associated with OS and CSS (p <0.05). Subgroup analysis found that the advantages of TA were more pronounced among individuals ≥70 years of age, with tumor size ≤3.0 cm, or who did not receive radiotherapy.

Conclusion

TA could be an effective alternative treatment for stage II-III NSCLC patients unsuitable for surgical resection, particularly those ≥70 years of age, with tumor size ≤3.0 cm, or who have not received radiotherapy.

Comparison of expected imaging findings following percutaneous microwave and cryoablation of pulmonary tumors: ablation zones and thoracic lymph nodes

OBJECTIVE

To compare temporal changes of ablation zones and lymph nodes following lung microwave ablation (MWA) and cryoablation.

METHODS

This retrospective cohort study compared lung ablation zones and thoracic lymph nodes following MWA and cryoablation performed 2006-2020. In the ablation zone cohort, ablation zone volumes were measured on serial CT for 12 months. In the lymph node cohort, the sum of bidimensional products of lymph node diameters was measured before (baseline) and up to 6 months following ablation. Cumulative incidence curves estimated the time to 75% ablation zone reduction and linear mixed-effects regression models compared the temporal distribution of ablation zones and lymph node sizes between modalities.

RESULTS

Ablation zones of 59 tumors treated in 45 sessions (16 MWA, 29 cryoablation) in 36 patients were evaluated. Differences in the time to 75% volume reduction between modalities were not detected. Following MWA, half of the ablation zones required an estimated time of 340 days to achieve a 75% volume reduction compared to 214 days following cryoablation (p = .30). Thoracic lymph node sizes after 33 sessions (13 MWA, 20 cryoablation) differed between modalities (baseline-32 days, p = .01; 32-123 days, p = .001). Following MWA, lymph nodes increased on average by 38 mm² (95%CI, 5.0-70.7; p = .02) from baseline to 32 days, followed by an estimated decrease of 50 mm² (32-123 days; p = .001). Following cryoablation, changes in lymph nodes were not detected (baseline-32 days, p = .33).

CONCLUSION

The rate of ablation zone volume reduction did not differ between MWA and cryoablation. Thoracic lymph nodes enlarged transiently after MWA but not after cryoablation.

KEY POINTS

• Contrary to current belief, the rate of lung ablation zone volume reduction did not differ between microwave and cryoablation. • Transient enlargement of thoracic lymph nodes after microwave ablation was not associated with regional tumor spread and decreased within six months following ablation. • No significant thoracic lymph node enlargement was observed following cryoablation.

Update on Image-Guided Thermal Lung Ablation: Society Guidelines, Therapeutic Alternatives, and Postablation Imaging Findings

Percutaneous image-guided thermal ablation (IGTA) has been endorsed by multiple societies as a safe and effective lung-preserving treatment for primary lung cancer and metastases involving the lung and chest wall. This article reviews the role of IGTA in the care continuum of patients with thoracic neoplasms and discusses strategies to identify the optimal local therapy considering patient and tumor characteristics. The advantages and disadvantages of percutaneous thermal ablation compared to surgical resection and stereotactic body radiotherapy are summarized. Principles of radiofrequency ablation, microwave ablation, and cryoablation, as well as the emerging use of transbronchial thermal ablation, are described. Specific considerations are presented regarding the role of thermal ablation for early-stage non-small cell lung cancer (NSCLC), multifocal primary NSCLC, pulmonary metastases, salvage of recurrent NSCLC after surgery or radiation, and pain palliation for tumors involving the chest wall. Recent changes to professional society guidelines regarding the role of thermal ablation in the lung, including for treatment of oligometastatic disease, are highlighted. Finally, recommendations are provided for imaging follow-up after thermal ablation of lung tumors, accompanied by examples of expected postoperative findings and patterns of disease recurrence.

Microwave ablation via a flexible catheter for the treatment of nonsurgical peripheral lung cancer: A pilot study

Background

Endobronchial microwave ablation via flexible catheter offers the potential for local therapy for inoperable peripheral lung cancer. The study aimed to evaluate the feasibility and safety of navigation bronchoscopy‐guided water‐cooled microwave ablation catheter for nonsurgical peripheral lung cancer.

Methods

This was a prospective single arm pilot study. Patients with early stage or multiple primary peripheral lung cancer who were nonsurgical candidates for surgery were enrolled in the study. Bronchoscopic microwave ablation was performed via a flexible water‐cooled microwave ablation antenna under the guidance of navigation bronchoscopy. Radial probe endobronchial ultrasound combined with fluoroscopy was used to confirm the position. Treatment outcomes were evaluated based on follow‐up chest CT and positron emission tomography scans. Primary endpoints were technical success and safety. Secondary endpoints were complete ablation rate, 2‐year local control rate, and progression‐free survival.

Results

Thirteen patients were enrolled in the study from April 2018 to July 2019. A total of 19 sessions of microwave ablation were performed on 14 tumors under the guidance of navigation bronchoscopy. The technical success was 100%. Treatment‐related complications occurred in two patients. The complete ablation rate was 78.6% (11/14). The 2‐year local control rate was 71.4%. Median progression‐free survival was 33 months for all patients.

Conclusions

In this pilot study, bronchoscopic microwave ablation appears to be feasible with acceptable occurrence of complication in the treatment of peripheral lung cancer under the guidance of navigation bronchoscopy.

Predicting the coagulation volume induced by microwave ablation of hepatocellular carcinoma: the role of deposited energy, ex-vivo bovine liver charts and central hyperdense area on post-treatment CT

PURPOSE

To study the correlation between the overall coagulation zone (A) attained in percutaneous microwave ablation (MWA) of hepatocellular carcinomas (HCC) and: (1) the hyperdense zone (C) visible in the central part of zone A on post-treatment unenhanced CT scans; (2) the deposited energy; (3) the coagulation zones observed on ex-vivo bovine liver.

MATERIALS AND METHODS

The post-procedural computed tomography (CT) scans of HCCs treated with a single energy deployment through the same 2450 MHz MWA system were retrospectively analyzed, retrieving the dimensions of A and C zones and the deposited energy (E). Ex-vivo bovine liver MWA with the same system were performed and analyzed to determine the same quantities by gross-pathologic examination and CT imaging.

RESULTS

A total of 101 HCC treatments were analyzed. The average coagulation volumes increased linearly with deposited energy (1.11 cc/kJ, R² = 0.90, 4.2 kJ ≤ E ≤ 48 kJ), similarly to ex-vivo findings (1.38 cc/kJ, R² =0.97, 7.2 kJ ≤ E ≤ 144 kJ). The long axis (L) and short axis (D) of zones A and C held a fairly constant ratio both in-vivo (L_C/L_A=0.43 ± 0.13; D_C/D_A=0.42 ± 0.10) and ex-vivo (L_C/L_A = 0.49 ± 0.07; D_C/D_A = 0.28 ± 0.06).

CONCLUSIONS

The average dimensions of the ablation zone induced by the considered system on HCC increase linearly with the deposited energy and are fairly well predicted by the corresponding ex-vivo dimensions. The ratio between each linear dimension of A and C zones was found to be roughly constant over a large deposited energy span, both ex-vivo and in-vivo.

Cryoablation in Locoregional Management of Complex Unresectable Chest Neoplasms

RATIONALE AND OBJECTIVES

The aim of our retrospective study was to assess the safety and feasibility of cryoablation in high-risk patients with complex chest neoplastic lesions.

MATERIALS AND METHODS

Twenty patients with complex chest malignancies, both primary and secondary, located in the mediastinum, lung, and chest wall, underwent percutaneous CT-guided cryoablation treatments. Procedural success as well as complications were evaluated.

RESULTS

A total of 24 neoplastic lesions were treated (mean diameter: 27 mm; range: 7-54 mm). Technical success was obtained in all patients, without major complications or intraprocedural death. A pneumothorax not requiring a drainage tube placement was registered in 50% of patients, while 3/24 patients had a grade 3 pneumothorax requiring a chest tube placement.

CONCLUSION

Percutaneous CT-guided cryoablation seems a safe and feasible treatment for complex thoracic lesions.

Risk prediction of pleural effusion in lung malignancy patients treated with CT-guided percutaneous microwave ablation: a nomogram and artificial neural network model

OBJECTIVES

To develop an effective nomogram and artificial neural network (ANN) model for predicting pleural effusion after percutaneous microwave ablation (MWA) in lung malignancy (LM) patients.

METHODS

LM patients treated with MWA were randomly allocated to either the training cohort or the validation cohort (7:3). The predictors of pleural effusion identified by univariable and multivariable analyses in the training cohort were used to develop a nomogram and ANN model. The C-statistic was used to evaluate the predictive accuracy in both the training and validation cohorts.

RESULTS

A total of 496 patients (training cohort: n = 357; validation cohort: n = 139) were enrolled in this study. The predictors selected into the nomogram for pleural effusion included the maximum power (hazard ratio [HR], 1.060; 95% confidence interval [CI], 1.022-1.100, p = 0.002), the number of pleural punctures (HR, 2.280; 95% CI, 1.103-4.722; p = 0.026) and the minimum distance from needle to pleura (HR, 0.840; 95% CI, 0.775-0.899; p < 0.001). The C-statistic showed good predictive performance in both cohorts, with a C-statistic of 0.866 (95% CI, 0.787-0.945) internally and 0.782 (95% CI, 0.644-0.920) externally (training cohort and validation cohort, respectively). The optimal cutoff value for the risk of pleural effusion was 0.16.

CONCLUSIONS

Maximum power, number of pleural punctures and minimum distance from needle to pleura were predictors of pleural effusion after MWA in LM patients. The nomogram and ANN model could effectively predict the risk of pleural effusion after MWA. Patients showing a high risk (>0.16) on the nomogram should be monitored for pleural effusion.

Thermal Ablation for Papillary Thyroid Microcarcinoma: How Far We Have Come?

Purpose

Thermal ablation (TA), as one of the most currently remarkable technologies, has achieved great success in many malignant diseases including but not limited to hepatic and renal carcinoma. In recent years, this technology was gradually introduced to the treatment of papillary thyroid microcarcinoma (PTMC) and even papillary thyroid carcinoma (PTC). Thereby, we summarized the current progress of TA development in the treatment of PTMC.

Methods

The latest relevant literature from the PubMed database with keywords "thermal ablation", "papillary thyroid microcarcinoma", "microwave ablation", "radio-frequency ablation", and "laser ablation", among others, were comprehensively reviewed in this article. The follow-up outcomes of patients in these articles were analyzed.

Results

The efficacy and safety of TA including microwave ablation (MWA), laser ablation (LA), and radiofrequency ablation (RFA) in the treatment of PTC and PTC have been intensively studied. Based on existing clinical trials, the relatively long-term follow-up (range, from 6 to 64.2 months) results in MWA, LA, and RFA were satisfactory that tumor volume reduction rate (VRR) reached and even surpass 99%. Compared with routine surgery methods (total thyroidectomy and lobectomy), the incidence rate of complications was relatively lower and the recurrence rate of TA techniques was not statistically significant, whereas the operative time, blood loss, length of hospital stay, and hospital cost were significantly decreased.

Conclusion

TA presents the same satisfactory therapeutic effects but minimal postoperative trauma can significantly improve the patients' quality of life. However, future larger sample, multicenter, and prospective randomized controlled trials are urgently needed to validate the feasibility of TA in dealing with PTMC.