Vaccine profile of herpes zoster (HZ/su) subunit vaccine

A Guide to Preclinical Models of Zoster-Associated Pain and Postherpetic Neuralgia

Reactivation of latent varicella-zoster virus (VZV) causes herpes zoster (HZ), which is commonly accompanied by acute pain and pruritus over the time course of a zosteriform rash. Although the rash and associated pain are self-limiting, a considerable fraction of HZ cases will subsequently develop debilitating chronic pain states termed postherpetic neuralgia (PHN). How VZV causes acute pain and the mechanisms underlying the transition to PHN are far from clear. The human-specific nature of VZV has made in vivo modeling of pain following reactivation difficult to study because no single animal can reproduce reactivated VZV disease as observed in the clinic. Investigations of VZV pathogenesis following primary infection have benefited greatly from human tissues harbored in immune-deficient mice, but modeling of acute and chronic pain requires an intact nervous system with the capability of transmitting ascending and descending sensory signals. Several groups have found that subcutaneous VZV inoculation of the rat induces prolonged and measurable changes in nociceptive behavior, indicating sensitivity that partially mimics the development of mechanical allodynia and thermal hyperalgesia seen in HZ and PHN patients. Although it is not a model of reactivation, the rat is beginning to inform how VZV infection can evoke a pain response and induce long-lasting alterations to nociception. In this review, we will summarize the rat pain models from a practical perspective and discuss avenues that have opened for testing of novel treatments for both zoster-associated pain and chronic PHN conditions, which remain in critical need of effective therapies.

EEHV1A glycoprotein B subunit vaccine elicits humoral and cell-mediated immune responses in mice

Asian elephants are an endangered species facing many threats, including severe hemorrhagic disease (HD) caused by the elephant endotheliotropic herpesvirus (EEHV). EEHV-HD is the leading cause of death in captive juvenile Asian elephants in North America and Europe, and also affects elephants in their natural range countries. Significant challenges exist for successful treatment of EEHV-HD, which include timely recognition of disease onset and limited availability of highly effective treatment options. To address this problem, our goal is to prevent lethal disease in young elephants by developing a vaccine that elicits robust and durable humoral and cell-mediated immunity against EEHV. EEHV glycoprotein B (gB) is a major target for cellular and humoral immunity in elephants previously exposed to EEHV. Therefore, we generated a vaccine containing recombinant EEHV1A gB together with a liposome formulated TLR-4 and saponin combination adjuvant (SLA-LSQ). CD-1 mice that received one or two vaccinations with the vaccine elicited significant anti-gB antibody and polyfunctional CD4⁺ and CD8⁺ T cell responses, while no adverse effects of vaccination were observed. Overall, our findings demonstrate that an adjuvanted gB protein subunit vaccine stimulates robust humoral and cell-mediated immune responses and supports its potential use in elephants.

An adjuvanted zoster vaccine elicits potent cellular immune responses in mice without QS21

Herpes zoster (HZ) is caused by reactivation of latent varicella-zoster virus (VZV) when VZV-specific cellular immunity is insufficient to control reactivation. Currently, Shingrix, which contains the VZV gE protein and GSK’s AS01_B adjuvant composed of liposomes formulated with cholesterol, monophosphoryl lipid A (MPL) and QS21, is used for prevention of HZ. However, reactogenicity to Shingrix is common leading to poor patient compliance in receiving one or both shots. Here, we evaluated the immunogenicity of a newly formulated gE protein-based HZ vaccine containing Second-generation Lipid Adjuvant (SLA), a synthetic TLR4 ligand, formulated in an oil-in-water emulsion (SLA-SE) without QS21 (gE/SLA-SE). In VZV-primed mouse models, gE/SLA-SE-induced gE-specific humoral and cellular immune responses at comparable levels to those elicited by Shingrix in young mice, as both gE/SLA-SE and Shingrix induce polyfunctional CD4⁺ T-cell responses. In aged mice, gE/SLA-SE elicited more robust gE-specific T-cell responses than Shingrix. Furthermore, gE/SLA-SE-induced T-cell responses were sustained until 5 months after immunization. Thus, QS21-free, gE/SLA-SE is a promising candidate for development of gE-based HZ vaccines with high immunogenicity—particularly when targeting an older population.

Modified vaccinia Ankara expressing EEHV1A glycoprotein B elicits humoral and cell-mediated immune responses in mice

Elephant endotheliotropic herpesvirus (EEHV) can cause lethal hemorrhagic disease (EEHV-HD) in Asian elephants and is the largest cause of death in captive juvenile Asian elephants in North America and Europe. EEHV-HD also has been documented in captive and wild elephants in their natural range countries. A safe and effective vaccine to prevent lethal EEHV infection would significantly improve conservation efforts for this endangered species. Recent studies from our laboratory suggest that EEHV morbidity and mortality are often associated with primary infection. Therefore, we aim to generate a vaccine, particularly for EEHV1 naïve animals, with the goal of preventing lethal EEHV-HD. To address this goal, we generated a Modified Vaccinia Ankara (MVA) recombinant virus expressing a truncated form of glycoprotein B (gBΔfur731) from EEHV1A, the strain associated with the majority of lethal EEHV cases. Vaccination of CD-1 mice with this recombinant virus induced robust antibody and polyfunctional T cell responses significantly above mice inoculated with wild-type MVA. Although the vaccine-induced T cell response was mainly observed in CD8+ T cell populations, the CD4+ T cell response was also polyfunctional. No adverse responses to vaccination were observed. Overall, our data demonstrates that MVA-gBΔfur731 stimulates robust humoral and cell-mediated responses, supporting its potential translation for use in elephants.

Burden of herpes zoster among Brazilian adults – a hospital-based study

OBJECTIVE: To describe the clinical features of herpes zoster in adult patients treated at a large tertiary care hospital in Brazil over a 5-year period. METHODS: The medical records of suspected herpes zoster cases (based on ICD-10 codes) were identified for full review. Convenience sampling was used to select the medical records from a tertiary hospital in São Paulo. We collected data about co-existing medical conditions, medication use, herpes zoster-related clinical features and outcomes, and healthcare resource utilization. RESULTS: A total of 249 individuals whose first episode of herpes zoster occurred between 2010 and 2014 were included. The mean patient age was 55 years (range 18–96), and the majority were women (63.05%) and aged ≥ 50 years (63.86%). Medical comorbidities were reported in 92.77%, including diabetes (19.68%) and HIV infection (7.63%). Current/recent use of immunosuppressive agents was reported in 31.73%. A total of 65.86% of the patients were hospitalized: 102 patients (40.96%) were admitted for herpes zoster management, while 62 (24.90%) were already receiving inpatient care. The mean hospital length of stay was 16.60 days. One-third (34.14%) were managed as outpatients. Postherpetic neuralgia was reported as a complication in 18.07%. CONCLUSIONS: This retrospective descriptive study found a high frequency of herpes zoster episodes in older adults with comorbidities who sought medical care at a tertiary hospital. These results also underscore the importance of understanding the epidemiology of this disease and developing control strategies for these at-risk populations in Brazil.

Recombinant Zoster Vaccine Is Efficacious and Safe in Frail Individuals

BACKGROUND/OBJECTIVES

Frail participants are often under-represented in randomized trials, raising questions about outcomes of interventions in real-world settings. Frailty is strongly associated with vulnerability to illness and adverse health outcomes. We studied the impact of frailty on recombinant zoster vaccine (RZV) clinical outcomes.

DESIGN/SETTING

Data from two previously conducted phase III randomized trials of RZV were pooled. These two parent trials were conducted concurrently at the same study sites using the same methods.

PARTICIPANTS/INTERVENTION

In the two parent studies, participants aged ≥50 years (ZOE-50 study) and ≥70 years (ZOE-70 study), respectively, were randomized 1:1 to receive two doses of RZV or placebo.

MEASUREMENTS

In the current ZOE-Frailty study (NCT03563183), a frailty index was created using previously validated methods. Clinical outcomes assessed by frailty status included vaccine efficacy, immunogenicity, reactogenicity, and safety.

RESULTS

Of 29,305 participants from the pooled ZOE-50 and ZOE-70 total vaccinated cohort, 92% were included in this study. Mean age was 68.8 years; 58.1% were women; 45.6% were pre-frail and 11.3% frail. The percentage of frail participants increased with age from 5.7% aged 50-59 years to 22.7% aged ≥80 years. RZV vaccine efficacy against herpes zoster was >90% for all frailty subgroups (non-frail: 95.8% (95% confidence interval = 91.6-98.2), pre-frail: 90.4% (84.4-94.4), frail: 90.2% (75.4-97.0)). The RZV group demonstrated robust anti-gE antibody and gE-specific CD4²⁺ responses, with mean concentrations remaining above pre-vaccination levels at least 3 years post-dose two, in all frailty subgroups. In the RZV group, the percentage of participants reporting solicited adverse events tended to decrease with increasing frailty.

CONCLUSION

The relatively nonrestrictive inclusion/exclusion criteria in the parent ZOE studies resulted in a range of participants that included frail and pre-frail older adults. RZV significantly reduced the risk of herpes zoster across all frailty subgroups.

A systematic literature review of the recombinant subunit herpes zoster vaccine use in immunocompromised 18-49 year old patients

BACKGROUND

The adjuvanted recombinant zoster vaccine (RZV) is indicated for prevention of herpes zoster (HZ) in adults aged ≥50 years. Questions regarding the use of RZV in immunocompromised patients < 50-year-old, who are at increased risk for HZ, were raised.

OBJECTIVES

The objective of this systematic review was to consolidate existing evidences on safety, immunogenicity and efficacy of RZV in immunocompromised adults aged 18-49 years.

METHODS

Four databases were searched. Preferred Reporting Items for Systematic review and Meta-Analysis Protocols (PRISMA-P) guidelines were followed. Screening and classification of search items was performed using the web-based platform DistillerSR.

RESULTS

The search identified 1389 potentially relevant records. Six studies fulfilled inclusion criteria. The proportion of patients aged 18-49 varied between 23 and 62%. Pain at injection site (98.6%) and fatigue (75.3%) were the most common adverse events. The proportion of patients reporting serious adverse events (SAEs) ranged between 8.1 and 30.8% in RZV and between 4.1 and 36.5% in placebo groups. SAEs deemed related to vaccination were reported in < 1% of patients in both RZV and placebo groups. The proportion of patients that experienced clinically significant underlying disease-related events ranged between 0.0 and 20.0% in RZV and 0.0 and 26.7% in placebo groups. The humoral and cell-mediated immune response rate ranged between 65.4 and 96.2% and 50.0-93.0%, respectively. Vaccine efficacy in hematopoietic stem cell transplant patients was 72% (95%CI, 39-88%) in 18-49-year-olds and 67% (95%CI, 53-78%) in ≥ 50-year-olds (median follow-up 21 months). Vaccine efficacy in ≥ 18-year-old patients with hematologic malignancies was estimated at 87.2% (95%CI, 44.3-98.6%) up to 13 months post-vaccination.

CONCLUSIONS

Results suggest that RZV has an acceptable safety profile and induces immunity in an important proportion of ≥ 18-year-old immunocompromised patients. Longer follow-up studies are warranted to assess the duration of RZV induced immunity in immunocompromised patients.

Recombinant Epstein-Barr virus glycoprotein 350 as a serological antigen

Epstein-Barr virus (EBV) glycoprotein 350 (gp350) is the most abundant glycoprotein expressed on the EBV envelope, the major target for neutralizing antibodies and also essential for virion attachment to B lymphocytes. Several studies have addressed EBV gp350 as a vaccine candidate, but less commonly as a potential antigen for serological assays. The aim of the current study was to develop a diagnostic tool to quantify EBV gp350-specific IgG in previously EBV-infected individuals. A construct encoding the extracellular domain of EBV gp350 (amino acid (aa) 1-860) was developed for expression in Chinese hamster ovary cells. Serum samples (n = 360) with known IgG serostatus against viral capsid antigen (VCA) and Epstein-Barr nuclear antigen 1 (EBNA1) were divided into three groups based on the differences in their serostatus: VCA + EBNA1+ (n = 120), VCA + EBNA1- (n = 120) and VCA-EBNA1- (n = 120). The samples were analyzed by indirect ELISA using recombinant EBV gp350 aa 1-860 as antigen. A clear majority, 108 of the 120 VCA + EBNA1+ samples, had detectable EBV gp350-specific IgG. Of the 120 VCA + EBNA1- samples, 79 had detectable EBV gp350-specific IgG. Only 2 of the 120 VCA-EBNA1- samples had detectable EBV gp350-specific IgG. The results reported here show that use of the EBV gp350 aa 1-860 ELISA can serve as a sensitive method for EBV-specific IgG detection in serum samples.

Targeted therapies for autoimmune/idiopathic nonmalignant diseases: risk and management of opportunistic infections

INTRODUCTION

The management of patients affected by autoimmune/idiopathic diseases has been revolutionized by the development of targeted therapies (TT). However, the use of TT is complicated by several adverse events, like opportunistic infections (OIs). The potential of TT to predispose to OIs mainly depends on the site of action; nevertheless, such associations are far from being deterministic, because many factors could increase the infection risk.

AREAS COVERED

The impact on the infective risk of different TT used for autoimmune/idiopathic diseases is far from being completely understood. Indeed, many post-marketing reports documented severe or unexpected infections in patients treated with TT that did not emerge during registrative trials. In this review, the authors attempt to provide an easy and practical update about the 'infectious' safety of TT and examine the management strategies of OIs and other infections more frequently observed in the course of treatment with TT.

EXPERT OPINION

The authors suggest to precisely schedule the clinical management of these subjects, both to prevent and eventually treat promptly the TT-related infectious complications. A coordinated approach should be implemented from different medical specialties to improve the overall understanding of safety of TT and, in general, the management of opportunistic infections in immune-compromised hosts.

Infection prophylaxis and management of viral infection

Viral infections are associated with significant morbidity and mortality in lung transplant recipients. Importantly, several viral infections have been associated with the development of chronic lung allograft dysfunction (CLAD). Community-acquired respiratory viruses (CARV) such as influenza and respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), are frequently associated with acute and chronic rejection. Cytomegalovirus (CMV) remains a significant burden in regards to morbidity and mortality in lung transplant recipients. Epstein-Barr virus (EBV) is mostly involved with the development of post-transplant lymphoproliferative disorder (PTLD), a lymphoid proliferation that occurs in the setting of immunosuppression. On the other hand, the development of direct acting antivirals for hepatitis C virus (HCV) is changing the use of HCV-positive organs in transplantation. In this article we will focus on reviewing common viral infections that have a significant impact on lung transplant recipients looking at epidemiology, prevention and potential treatment.

Risk of herpes zoster in the Japanese population with immunocompromising and chronic disease conditions: Results from a claims database cohort study, from 2005 to 2014

Older adults, women and patients with immunocompromised (IC) or chronic medical conditions have a higher incidence of herpes zoster (HZ) and are at higher risk of developing HZ-associated complications such as postherpetic neuralgia. The incidence rates of HZ in various IC and chronic conditions have been previously reported in a retrospective cohort study using claims data from Japanese adults. Here, we report further analyses from this cohort using univariate and multivariable Cox regression to estimate crude and adjusted hazard ratios (HRs) associated with different IC and chronic conditions. After adjusting for multiple covariates (age, sex and other coexisting medical conditions), the risk of HZ was higher in women (HR, 1.14 [95% CI, 1.11-1.17]), irrespective of age and increased with increasing age, being substantially higher in patients aged 65 years or older (HR, 3.28 [95% CI, 3.07-3.49]) when compared with those aged 18-29 years. The highest HRs were observed for the following specific IC conditions; hematopoietic stem cell transplant recipients (HR, 9.85 [95% CI, 6.80-14.28]), hematological malignancy (HR, 3.22 [95% CI, 2.54-4.09]), systemic lupus erythematosus (HR, 2.46 [95% CI, 1.45-4.15]) and inflammatory bowel disease (HR, 1.59 [95% CI, 1.14-2.21]). For most other IC and chronic medical conditions, a higher risk was also apparent though of a smaller magnitude (HRs ranging from 1.2 to <1.5). These results corroborate our previous findings and demonstrate an increased risk of HZ associated with different IC and chronic conditions.

Immune Responses to a Recombinant Glycoprotein E Herpes Zoster Vaccine in Adults Aged 50 Years or Older

Background

The herpes zoster subunit vaccine (HZ/su), consisting of varicella-zoster virus glycoprotein E (gE) and AS01_B Adjuvant System, was highly efficacious in preventing herpes zoster in the ZOE-50 and ZOE-70 trials. We present immunogenicity results from those trials.

Methods

Participants (ZOE-50: ≥50; ZOE-70: ≥70 years of age) received 2 doses of HZ/su or placebo, 2 months apart. Serum anti-gE antibodies and CD4 T cells expressing ≥2 of 4 activation markers assessed (CD4²⁺) after stimulation with gE-peptides were measured in subcohorts for humoral (n = 3293) and cell-mediated (n = 466) immunogenicity.

Results

After vaccination, 97.8% of HZ/su and 2.0% of placebo recipients showed a humoral response. Geometric mean anti-gE antibody concentrations increased 39.1-fold and 8.3-fold over baseline in HZ/su recipients at 1 and 36 months post-dose 2, respectively. A gE-specific CD4²⁺ T-cell response was shown in 93.3% of HZ/su and 0% of placebo recipients. Median CD4²⁺ T-cell frequencies increased 24.6-fold (1 month) and 7.9-fold (36 months) over baseline in HZ/su recipients and remained ≥5.6-fold above baseline in all age groups at 36 months. The proportion of CD4 T cells expressing all 4 activation markers increased over time in all age groups.

Conclusions

Most HZ/su recipients developed robust immune responses persisting for 3 years following vaccination.

Clinical Trials Registration

NCT01165177; NCT01165229.

Viral infections in the biologic therapy era

INTRODUCTION

The development of biologic therapies for treating patients with rheumatic, hematologic, or oncological diseases has increased in the last few years, spreading their use in clinical practice. Areas covered: Clinical experience has evidenced substantial risks for some viral infections and/or reactivations such as viral hepatitis, herpetic infections, and other viruses, as a consequence of specific immune pathway blockages. Biological therapies produce a variable risk of reactivation of viral infections, which is particularly uncertain in the case of the most recently introduced agents. Here we make an extensive review of the viral infections associated with the use of biological drugs and provide a series of recommendations for its prevention and management. Expert commentary: To prevent these infections/reactivations, the practitioner must be aware of the infection-risk profile, performing accurate screening during and after the use of any biologic agent. In some instances, expert recommendations are made for some therapies, while in other scenarios recommendations have not yet been defined making experimental and clinical research an essential approach to elucidate multiple issues yet not resolved in this field.

A novel nonlive, adjuvanted herpes zoster subunit vaccine: a report on the emerging clinical data and safety profile

Herpes zoster (HZ) is an acute vesicular dermatitis with a typical dermatomal distribution, caused by the varicella zoster virus (VZV), often preceded and accompanied by prodromal pain or pruritus. HZ may be related to several complications such as postherpetic neuralgia (PHN). The incidence and severity of the disease increase with aging, due to immunosenescence and in particular to the decline of the specific cell-mediated immunity (CMI). The impact of HZ in terms of morbidity and short- and long-term complications, the availability of suboptimal treatment options to date, and the high costs for the diagnostic and clinical-therapeutic management of patients have motivated the search for a new preventive approach through the development of a vaccine. The vaccine currently in use with live-attenuated virus (ZVL) has been shown to be effective in reducing the incidence of HZ, its impact, and the onset of PHN, although the efficacy is lower in older subjects and tends to decrease some years after immunization. A new adjuvanted recombinant subunit vaccine (HZ/su), containing the VZV glycoprotein E (gE) and the AS01B adjuvant system, is now a very promising alternative to ZVL; in several clinical studies, it showed a good safety profile and was able to elicit high immune humoral and cell-mediated responses, both maintained up to 9 years. Furthermore, HZ/su vaccine was effective both in preventing HZ and in reducing the onset of PHN and other complications. HZ/su has been recommended and preferred over ZVL by the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) for the prevention of HZ and its complications in immunocompetent adults aged ≥50 years, even if already vaccinated with ZVL, through a two-dose schedule. HZ/su has been approved in Canada, USA, Europe, and Japan and is currently being approved in Australia. The aim of this review was to describe the epidemiological data, HZ and PHN risks and their impact on the social life and common life of infected people, and ZVL and HZ/su vaccine development including various clinical trials and efficacy, safety, and tolerability profiles.

Herpes Zoster and Immunogenicity and Safety of Zoster Vaccines in Transplant Patients: A Narrative Review of the Literature

This narrative review focuses on the herpes zoster (HZ) and its prevention in transplant patients. Varicella zoster virus (VZV) is highly contagious and distributed worldwide in humans. Primary VZV infection usually causes varicella and then establishes a lifelong latency in dorsal root ganglia. Reactivation of VZV leads to HZ and related complications such as postherpetic neuralgia. Age and decreased immunity against VZV are important risk factors for developing HZ. Transplant patients are at increased risk for developing HZ and related complications due to their immunocompromised status and the need for lifetime immunosuppression. Diagnosis of HZ in transplant patients is often clinically difficult, and VZV-specific antibodies should be determined by serologic testing to document prior exposure to VZV during their pre-transplant evaluation process. Although antiviral agents are available, vaccination should be recommended for preventing HZ in transplant patients considering their complicated condition and weak organ function. Currently, there are two licensed HZ vaccines, of which one is a live-attenuated vaccine and the other is a HZ subunit vaccine. Both vaccines have shown promising safety and efficacy in transplants patients and especially the subunit vaccine could be administered post-transplant since this vaccine does not contain any live virus. Larger studies are needed about safety and immunogenicity of HZ vaccines in transplant populations, and extra efforts are needed to increase vaccine usage according to guidelines.

Age-Dependent Pre-Vaccination Immunity Affects the Immunogenicity of Varicella Zoster Vaccination in Middle-aged Adults

Background

Prevention of infectious diseases is of high priority in the rapidly aging population. Unfortunately, vaccine responses in the elderly are frequently diminished. Timely vaccination of middle-aged adults might improve the immune responses to vaccines, although knowledge on pathogen-specific immune responses and factors affecting these responses, in middle-aged adults is currently limited. We thus investigated the immune responses after vaccination with Zostavax consisting of live-attenuated varicella zoster virus (VZV).

Methods

Blood samples were taken pre-, 14 days, 28 days, and 1 year after a primary VZV vaccination (Zostavax) at middle age (N = 53, 50–65 years of age). VZV-specific IFNγ-producing cells were measured by ELISpot, activated T-cells by flow cytometry, antibody levels and cytokine responses by fluorescent bead-based multiplex immunoassays, and whole blood cellular kinetics by TruCOUNT analysis.

Results

Robust short-term enhancement of the VZV-specific IFNγ-producing cell numbers was observed post-vaccination in the middle-aged adults. Remarkably, long-term enhancement of VZV-specific IFNγ-producing cell numbers was induced only in participants with low numbers of VZV-specific pre-vaccination IFNγ-producing cells, who were significantly older. These participants also showed enhancement of VZV-specific activated CD4 T-cells, contrary to “exhausted” VZV-specific CD8 T-cells in participants with high numbers of VZV-specific pre-vaccination IFNγ-producing cells. Finally, a high CD4/CD8 T-cell ratio was associated with low numbers of pre-vaccination VZV-specific IFNγ-producing cells.

Conclusion

These results suggest that adults in their early sixties, who showed a high CD4/CD8 T-cell ratio and low numbers of VZV-specific IFNγ-producing cells, benefit from VZV vaccination. This provides important knowledge on factors affecting VZV-specific immune responses in middle-aged adults as well as for strategies to strengthen immunity before reaching old age.

Varicella and herpes zoster vaccine development: lessons learned

INTRODUCTION

Before vaccination, varicella zoster virus (VZV), which is endemic worldwide, led to almost universal infection. This neurotropic virus persists lifelong by establishing latency in sensory ganglia, where its reactivation is controlled by VZV-specific T-cell immunity. Lifetime risk of VZV reactivation (zoster) is around 30%. Vaccine development was galvanised by the economic and societal burden of VZV, including debilitating zoster complications that largely affect older individuals. Areas covered: We describe the story of development, licensing and implementation of live attenuated vaccines against varicella and zoster. We consider the complex backdrop of VZV virology, pathogenesis and immune responses in the absence of suitable animal models and examine the changing epidemiology of VZV disease. We review the vaccines' efficacy, safety, effectiveness and coverage using evidence from trials, observational studies from large routine health datasets and clinical post-marketing surveillance studies and outline newer developments in subunit and inactivated vaccines. Expert commentary: Safe and effective, varicella and zoster vaccines have already made major inroads into reducing the burden of VZV disease globally. As these live vaccines have the potential to reactivate and cause clinical disease, developing alternatives that do not establish latency is an attractive prospect but will require better understanding of latency mechanisms.